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Post  xz_storm on Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:58 pm

so wheres the ruling section for this forum and who usally does the ruling at brickworks/ sport card world nowadays.

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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Big_Sav on Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:35 pm

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Re: rulings for forum

Post  xz_storm on Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:16 am

well every1 plz check the ruling for r-rightous justice and hero city 2 cause thats what im gonna be using this saturday at brickworks i dont want to have a big arguement about it :p

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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Mr. Troll on Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:44 pm

xz_storm wrote:so wheres the ruling section for this forum and who usally does the ruling at brickworks/ sport card world nowadays.
if u hav a question bout a ruling at a tournament just me, Nick or Jamie Very Happy
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Shnickerdoodles on Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:22 pm

*cough* tyson *cough*
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Big_Sav on Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:56 pm

that tyson is such a loser Razz
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Post  Mr. Troll on Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:07 pm

Sephiroth_The_Legend wrote:that tyson is such a loser Razz

definitely...
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  xz_storm on Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:59 pm

Xicer wrote:
xz_storm wrote:so wheres the ruling section for this forum and who usally does the ruling at brickworks/ sport card world nowadays.
if u hav a question bout a ruling at a tournament just me, Nick or Jamie Very Happy

eerrrr........ kay....
how about you ask me for the rulings lolz

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Post  Astroduelist on Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:50 am

xz_storm wrote:
Xicer wrote:
xz_storm wrote:so wheres the ruling section for this forum and who usally does the ruling at brickworks/ sport card world nowadays.
if u hav a question bout a ruling at a tournament just me, Nick or Jamie Very Happy

eerrrr........ kay....
how about you ask me for the rulings lolz

....so this dude must think he's pretty awesome then.

I think there might be a few members of Team Sword Beast who would ejnoy putting that previous comment to the test.... Razz

lmao.... lol!
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  xz_storm on Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:29 am

who is from team sword beast?

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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Mr. Troll on Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:55 pm

xz_storm wrote:who is from team sword beast?
wat a noob question...
jokes but yeah we will test him eventually
team sword beast is the greatest team of all time and the members consist of
Nick S
Michael S
Damian C
Tony H
Ben C
Michael D
Tyson G
Jamie A
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Big_Sav on Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:35 pm

If a control a face-up "Stardust Dragon" and a face-up "Skill Drain", can i activate "Stardust Dragon's" effect to negate an effect that would destroy a card on the field?

Let's see the man in action.
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  yugiohnation123 on Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:45 pm

Sephiroth_The_Legend wrote:If a control a face-up "Stardust Dragon" and a face-up "Skill Drain", can i activate "Stardust Dragon's" effect to negate an effect that would destroy a card on the field?

Let's see the man in action.

Nick, starting to get all technical on us with some fancy rulings. lol!
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Big_Sav on Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:14 pm

This is actually a very basic ruling.

Jamie, myself and maybe Mikal might know it.

I'm testing everyone else.
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Mr. Troll on Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:36 pm

Sephiroth_The_Legend wrote:This is actually a very basic ruling.

Jamie, myself and maybe Mikal might know it.

I'm testing everyone else.
yeah i kno it...
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  lucazard on Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:17 pm

Skill Drain only 'negates' effects but does not stop you from activating them hence why you can use Kamon's effect targeting Skill Darin then chain Cunning of the Six Samurai and send Kamon to the grave and Special another Samurai and Kamon's effect resolves.

Therefore Skill Drain will not stop you from activating Stardust's effect so you tribute it and it's effect resolves in the grave.
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Post  Astroduelist on Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:44 pm

lucazard wrote:Skill Drain only 'negates' effects but does not stop you from activating them hence why you can use Kamon's effect targeting Skill Darin then chain Cunning of the Six Samurai and send Kamon to the grave and Special another Samurai and Kamon's effect resolves.

Therefore Skill Drain will not stop you from activating Stardust's effect so you tribute it and it's effect resolves in the grave.

Thats what I would have thought too... Stardust eff resolves in the grave and Skill Drain can not negate eff that resolve in grave....
IE: Dandylion Tokens, Sangan search, Stardust effect to negate, most of the floaters also get there effect if it resolves after they hit the grave...

Would that be right Nick ? Smile
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Big_Sav on Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:04 pm

You guys nailed it, but you didn't say the exact reason why....

If you answered with what you did in the judge test, you would have failed.

It's because Stardust's effect is a Cost.

To Tribute itself is it's Cost, hence as the effect resolves in the Grave, Skill Drain cannot negate it.

you get half a mark.
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  xz_storm on Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:36 am

yeh im pretty noob
that stardust ruling was too hard for me
i give you guys a question this is what i learnt from pharaoh's tour ages ago
player 1 has 900 lp and attack cyber dragon with thunder king. both player has honest in hand. player 1 activate honest during damage step.
what is the best thing to do here for player 2?

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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Jamie_Alexander on Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:29 am

xz_storm wrote:yeh im pretty noob
that stardust ruling was too hard for me
i give you guys a question this is what i learnt from pharaoh's tour ages ago
player 1 has 900 lp and attack cyber dragon with thunder king. both player has honest in hand. player 1 activate honest during damage step.
what is the best thing to do here for player 2?

That all depends on when during the Damage Step Player 1 activates Honest's effect. There are three possible Sub Steps in which he can activate Honest: Sub Step 1: Beginning of the Damage Step; Sub Step 3: Before Damage Calculation;and Sub Step 4: Damage Calculation (Sub Step 2: Flip Face-down Monsters Face Up is irrelevant for obvious reasons).

Now, if Player 1 simply declares that he activates Honest "during the Damage Step" then it is assumed by most people that this is given to mean Sub Step 1: Beginning of the Damage Step. In this case, Player 1's Honest will resolve, gaining Cyber Dragon's 2100 ATK, and Player 2 can then activate his Honest in either of the two remaining possible Sub Steps to gain Thinder King's now boosted ATK and destroy it in battle. Player 2 survives the turn

If Player 1, however, declares specifically that he activates Honest in Sub Step 4: Damage Calculation, Player 2 can chain his Honest's effect, but it will resolve first: his Cyber Dragon will gain Thunder King's normal ATK, and then Player 1's Honest will resolve, gaining the Cyber Dragon's now boosted ATK and destroying it in battle. There is only one possible chain in the Damage Step, so he cannot wait for Player 1's Honest to resolve and then activate his on a new chain. Player 2 is screwed.

-Jamie
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  xz_storm on Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:30 pm

too easy i knew you would have got it but the question was never meant for you jamie lolz
player 1 activate at the start of damage step where he end up losing the match without knowing why lolz

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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Mr. Troll on Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:55 pm

this is a question i saw on a judge test that made me question if it is worth becoming a judge

What attribute is stardust dragon?

WIND
Dragon
Effect
Synchro
8

cant wait to take my judge test cause it will b way too easy then...
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Shnickerdoodles on Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:24 pm

Im a judge... well, technically im not as im not old enough, but i passed the test :3

Btw I knew the sd rulling 100%, Jamie went through it 819084184891298 times with me when Andrew was chucking a spaz saying i can't lonefire with skill drain on the field -_-
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Re: rulings for forum

Post  Shnickerdoodles on Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:25 pm

Yeh i agree, that tyson kids a newb.
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Post  Mr. Troll on Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:10 pm

Nom Nom Nom :3 wrote:Im a judge... well, technically im not as im not old enough, but i passed the test :3

Btw I knew the sd rulling 100%, Jamie went through it 819084184891298 times with me when Andrew was chucking a spaz saying i can't lonefire with skill drain on the field -_-

yeah the online test isnt the real test otherwise i would b soooooooooooo happy
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